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<title>WP: U.S. Unemployment Rate Jumps to 8.1 Percent; 1980s Doom v. 2008-9 Doom</title>
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<![CDATA[<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/06/AR2009030601063.html?nav=rss_email/components">U.S. Unemployment Rate Jumps to 8.1 Percent</a>

<p>Graph generated at the <a href="http://www.bls.gov/BLA">U.S. Bureaof Labor
Statistics website:

<img src="http://www.giantfoo.org/~johan/Doom/unemp1948-2009.02.png">

<p>You can't quite see the top of the line on the right -- it's above the
7.5 mark. Since the Great Depression, there've only been two periods in
U.S. history when unemployment was this high:

<ol>
  <li>All 12 months of 1975 (peaked at 9.0 in May)

  <li>Nov 1981 through Dec. 1983 (peaked at 10.8 in Nov-Dec 1982)
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<p>An interesting comparison the Dow Jones Industrial Average (from Google) for Jan 1981
- and Jan 1983 versus this year:

<a img src="http://www.giantfoo.org/~johan/Doom/djia-198001-198301.png"> <a
href="http://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&chds=1&chdv=1&chvs=maximized&chdeh=0&chdet=412030800000&chddm=203005&q=INDEXDJX:.DJI&ntsp=0">[1]</a>
<a img src="http://www.giantfoo.org/~johan/Doom/djia-200801-200902.png"> <a
href="http://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&chds=1&chdv=1&chvs=maximized&chdeh=0&chdet=1236753981460&chddm=114269&q=INDEXDJX:.DJI&ntsp=0">[2]</a>

<p> So if 2008-2009 is like 1981, then we can assume the rest of this year
will suck mightily, unemployment will climb to record levels, and there
will be lots of unhappy people.

<p> one important diferrence is that the DJIA has lost almost 50% of its
value over the last 10 months. By contrast, the largest loss occurring in
this period in the late 1970s and early 1980s was about 15% between Feb
and Apr of 1980.

<p> In my mind, the big question boils down to: Are we in for
1970s-early-1980s stagflation, or the Great Depression II?

<p>When comparing these charts, they seem different.  These seem like
different patterns. And of course, there are many other factors: crisis
throughout the world financial sector, loss of manufacturing jobs, etc.

<p> So at the moment, i'm think we're in for something worse than the
1970s and 1980s.]]>
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<title>WP: Report Says Global Economy Will Shrink for First Time Since 1940s</title>
<dc:date>2009-03-09T00:03:06-05:00</dc:date>
<dc:creator>johan</dc:creator>
<dc:subject>Doom</dc:subject>
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<![CDATA[<a
href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/08/AR2009030801216.html?nav=rss_email/components">U.S. Downturn
Dragging World Into Recession</a>

"The world is falling into the first global recession since World War II
as the crisis that started in the United States engulfs once-booming
developing nations, confronting them with massive financial shortfalls
that could turn back the clock on poverty reduction by years, the World
Bank warned yesterday."]]>
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<title>New blog category: Doom</title>
<dc:date>2009-03-08T23:55:48-05:00</dc:date>
<dc:creator>johan</dc:creator>
<dc:subject>Doom</dc:subject>
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<![CDATA[I'm adding a new category for articles related to impending Economic and
Societal Doom. :)]]>
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